The Ezra Klein Show: Ep. 44 – Award-winning chef José Andrés on cooking, creativity, and learning from the best
Jose Andres isn’t just a chef. He’s a force. All that talk of how DC is now a hot dining scene? Andrés deserves more than a bit of the credit. He’s popularized Spanish tapas through Jaleo, brought El Bulli-style molecular gastronomy to America through MiniBar, and racked up some Michelin stars and James Beard awards along the way.
Andrés has hosted television shows, taught courses on the science of cooking at Harvard, extended his restaurant empire to Las Vegas and South Beach, set up a nonprofit in Haiti, and launched a fast-casual chain focused on vegetables. He’s been named “Man of the Year” by GQ and one of the world’s 100 most influential people by Time.
I’ve know Andrés for a couple of years, and I’ve never met a better storyteller, or seen anyone who thinks harder about the component parts of creativity. We talk about that, as well as:
-What Andrés learned from his father
-Why the most important job when making paella is tending the fire
-Why cooking at home is important but not essential
-What he makes of Americans eating out of the house more than ever before
-Why we need to be pragmatic about sourcing food
-How he applies what he learned in the Spanish navy to his restaurants
-What he learned from Ferran Adrià, the founder of molecular gastronomy
-How he takes ideas from other disciplines and applies them in his kitchens
-How important hiring is to him and why immigration policy is so crucial to the American restaurant business
-Why his fast-casual restaurants called Beefsteak are nearly meatless
-How he’s managed to run an empire while remaining focused on the creative side
-What he thinks we might lose by eating synthetic food or silent
-The one dish he thinks people should learn to cook
Do you eat? Do you think? Then listen to this.
Listen to the entire episode here.